<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> After using your trail runners if you get some, take them back to the store and tell them that you only used them once and show them how scratched and dirty they look. See what they say.:) I have some Hardrocks and they sure took a beating on a week long trip, but I was happy with them, others like there own brand of choice. A few years back, some had mentioned that liner socks didn't help, sure enough, I went without them and saw no change in the condition of my feet. Even the trail runners give me blisters on the ball of my feet.