Thanks Midnight. So when is that going to air - can we see you?

I think a major problem is the resistence to "digging in." People want to run out because its uncomfortable being wet and cold, and digging in, conserving your body heat and eating is just too far from their fight or flight thing. You have written to me about that - like drowning - you do anything to get air.

It takes time to deploy your gear. The time to start is before the $$it hits the fan. While you are still warm. Like starting to dig a snowcave when someone is already hypothermic is not a good thing.

I have to say that a down jacket and fleece pants do not weigh over 3 pounds but can save your life. Why cut things so close? Is the desire to look really cool with a tiny pack, or none at all?

Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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These are my own opinions based on wisdom earned through many wrong decisions. Your mileage may vary.