IMHO pads make a huge difference. Your 25deg bag will probably be comfortable at 25deg if you use a pad. My overnighter this last weekend proved it to me again.

For me, I don't like CCF because I don't find them comfortable. However, that is all I have. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Some day, I will get an inflatable. I have tried the self inflatable thermorests. They don't seem thick enough. I will probably get the cheaper BA aircore. They are on sale for $50 at REI now. Maybe I will make one like Bill/gardenville did. Whatever you do, make sure that if it is inflatable, there is insulation inside. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />