And by the way - just because you know what the sign looks like, and find some.. doesn't mean to panic <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> - When I see it I think "neat" - I stay alert (and sometimes get to see bears!) but don't freak out or let fear ruin your trip. I just face facts that I share my hiking world with Mr. Griz - and I have have to give him/her the respect that is waranted - but then again it's been that way most places I go as long as I remember - I had bear safety drilled into me at a very young age <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />