Hey Winni
Comon dude, some of my best nights sleep was under a pile of claymores. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> OOps we were being honest. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

There is way too much competition with little real even comparison. There is one major difference - to some it matters - to some it doesn't and they don't wish to compete but still go as light as they want. I think most of us after a while want to warm and dry when we camp elst wise why not stay at the lodge by the fire? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Also most of us go for some reason other to say we went UL, <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> so we carry some mission hardware, like a camera or some other toys. You have to be stripped of luxeries and toys to be UL. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />