and that's really my point i think ultra- lite backpackers are an elite group. I have learned so much from forums. But I just want to go out with the least amount of gear (on most of my trips) Ido family and friends trips that I take extra gear but I started this forum stating people to be honest about what they bring out. Mainly false conceptions of what others might perceive as a true weight to follow
does anyone get what i'm tryin to say?