Jim.. a .44 ( I prefer a mag) makes more noise than the generator! Place generator wires in hand, walk away with wires still in hand. They never lock the gen set cabinets on those monsters. I politely asked a guy to turn his generator off in a Winnebago (it was 60 degrees outside, but his wife just had to have AC) because the muffler was rusted out and we could not sleep 5 campsites away. He got ugly and I walked away... with a couple of his gen set wires in hand. I still feel no guilt cause I gave them back to him as he was leaving the next morning. Thou shall not steal... permanently. You do what ya gotta do in this life to make peace... and quiet. Brum <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />