The temperature that I consider boiling is when the water is trying to get out the pot. I don't just begin to see bubbles on the bottom of the pot and pour it out. I let it roll. I wish that I was smart enough to get pics on here because I have so many different set-ups that there are just too many to describe. Some of them have actually surprised me too. Granted I do have some of them that are closer to the test that you see here but I really do have a couple of set-ups that will blow most any thing away that you see tested here....Hope this helps....Happy Trekking...sabre11004



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