I have been using Platys for many years and I still have one of the originals that I purchased years ago...I have three or four of these bottles and they are all different sizes for different things. I do carry a spare but I have never had to use it....ever....I took one of those Gatorade bottles with me on a trip one time to Little Big Fork on the Cumberland trail. We had stopped for the day and we were boiling water and to correctly measure the quantities of the water for our food I had drawn increments (in oz.) on the side of the bottle. I poured hot water in that Gatorade bottle and it folded like a K-Mart lawn chair. It just collapsed and spilled all the water or most of it any way. Hope this helps....Happy Trekking...sabre11004....

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