MNS,

I know he's referring to the cut, not the thickness. That's what I'm talking about too. Slim cuts don't cut it (hee,hee) in cold weather.

I've seen the new, slim cut "softshell" and even hardshell clothing. Not impressed at all with non-functional design. That stuff is for wearing on campus or city streets but not in wilderness settings.

Grumpy old codger, Eric
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