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At night was not a problem. I dipped two 1 l. aquafina water bottles from stream (less than 35 degrees) treated with micropur tablet (other guys pump froze) and put next to fire for infrared heating and placed in sleeping bag. Good the next morning. Refilled from stream treated and then hit trail @ 9 with bottle inside my windbreaker and the other zipped in side pocket--temps below 10 degrees. By noon serious ice formation on inside bottle, by 3, slushy rock ice.

Inside pack not an option for I need to drink water during hike. I am already carrying 30# skin out, so I am not adding steel thermos bottles. (I was the kid who licked monkey bars during winter so I don’t do metal in winter anymore.)

I knocked any bladder due to hoes freezing. I don’t like to cook snow as it is waste of fuel (using alky stove, don't have pocket rocket) and time especially for liter every 4 hours when stream is on the away. Staying in camp was worst possible situation since we had limited wood, food, fuel and had it keep moving to stay warm and make way points.

So far, I like the Gatorade idea cause I need the sugar/salts which means I get three uses for item. Liked the hand warmer idea but I think the large thermal mass of very cold water would suck the heat down flat. The cozy idea is most practical and doable, not much weight gain but single use item. Vodka, well at least I get two uses if i put olive in bottle too.
As the other poster mentioned it would help if the water was hot to begin with, and you stored it under more layers. But I think the best answer for your situation is a wineskin, plus a gatoraid bottle. Also I would stick with the alky stove if I were you, but practice small fires with hobbo stoves also. Good skill for winter camping. I went out this morning before sun up and went over to this island just for the fun of it and to test some stuff out. It was -21C and -23C when I got back. I got the bic light working, and got the hobbo stove burning, but it sucked so I wasn't able to melt all my snow. No oats for this lad. So I need to work on my hobbo skills for really cold weather.

I think I will build an insulated hobbostove. A friend from Texas sent me some stuff. I still owe him some maple syrup. Still working on the stove Bill. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


Here are some photos:
Sorry my photography skills suck just as bad as my hobbo stove skills.