Trailrunner
Well thanks. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> seriously.

I do not see anything in these quotes that makes me believe that goretex freezes up. I do know that some manufacturers use cheapo fabrics to laminate the goretex to and Marmot goretex garments are very different than cheap goretex garmets.

What I'm saying is that what I read here is someones intuitive response - no science. I've never had a layer of ice on my goretex. How could a layer of ice freeze to goretex? Wouldn't it just pop off of all but the dullest finishes on rough material with no DWR? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I mean I believe mythbusters could make it freeze up, but they would have to physically hold it immobile and subject it to extremes to make it happen. I've never seen it on the outside of a goretex tent even after a major storm.

Has anybody here ever had ice form on the outside of their goretex jacket? I've sat in snow storms buried in snow and still been dry inside my goretex. I'm afraid that my experience with quality goretex garments in all kinds of weather is that they do not fail, they do not freeze up, they do not stop working in ANY weather that I've used them in. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

And as far as Ryan Jordan 's opinion... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Lets just say that I have had teams of very experienced PHDs fight over their proffesional specialities only to show them something they never believed could happen. First and second order thought are nice and intuitive but don't prove anything that way. Ryan Jordans opinion is not enough.

And trailrunner please take no offense here. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />