Imager take 'our' collective experience for what you will, in the end you will go if that's what you decide. We're here to offer you our candid, and sometimes sarcastic(me), opinions from actual experience. This isn't a 'virtual' website that is benign; what we discuss here can mean the life and death of someone; that's why we seriously caution you. If we wanted 'entertainment' we could bs you til the cows come home then laugh after you went. We've all been in your shoes in many outdoor venues, some more experience than others in certain areas. Those of us less knowledgable wait for the others to chime in and we learn from them. I live in NJ right now but spent a few years in AZ and hiked the GC enough to know my own limits, I'm trying to get you to understand your's. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />