That's good to know! I wonder if people's introduction to silnylon are similar to mine: the first silnylon tent I purchased also happens (not coincidentally) to be the first non-freestanding tent I purchased. As a result they never were too concerned about how much their old framed PU coated tent sagged, but if their new non-freestanding tent sags and they did a poor job pitching it then their tent might fall over.... and then they complain about sagging in silnylon.