Just a follow up...I'm in total agreement that folks need to learn how to use a map & compass and we do share those skills while on a trip. We just don't require that they already know them to join us. To do so would be to have very few trips with even fewer students. Are kids don't arrive on campus with the outdoor skills many of us take for granted. Essentially 99% of our trips are beginner oriented because that is our audience. We operate, and teach skills where required, with the intent that eventually they will be able to travel in the backcountry without us.

That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.

snapper