those look super high quality. tho possibly too heavy for my little lake trout in CA. i suppose i want cheap\strong\light, and like everything else, we have to pick two smile

the fiblink i mentioned is pretty stiff, more of a bass rod, but ultumately 4.5oz. (10oz with reel, 16oz with case). i really liked that diawa presso, but if it breaks in half, its a non starter. maybe something just a bit stronger?

at this point im still looking! (and probably always will be)

thanks for the great info!