So now that you use an internal frame you don't get the same back pain leaning forward as we both do while fishing? It does not take much of a lean while fishing to feel discomfort. Its that subconscious slight lean in anticipation of that strike and subsequent hookset. Just curious if and internal packs causes the same lean while walking. So Glenn, if I get this straight, I do not HAVE to lean forward with an internal? Just that everything I read about them says that they do tend to cause you to lean. Gonna hike The Batona in NJ soon and just don't wanna get halfway into it and abort due to choosing the wrong type of pack. Thanks