I really appreciate all of the input. This was awesome. I learned what I was hoping to learn...how other people do it. I also learned that I like the way I do it. I don't mind carrying a heavy pack for 5 miles so that I can have a "plush" basecamp. I carry a lot of gear on the day hikes because I'm usually the "leader" of a group of 4 (my wife and one other couple). I'm also the most fit in the group, so I'm never the one slowing the group down. I'm not trying to say that I know more than anyone else. I truly appreciate the feedback. I'm just saying that hearing these stories about carrying less, made me realize that I don't mind carrying more. I'm still listening, so if anyone else has input, please keep it coming. I'm just saying that I think I might be set in my ways. I will probably look into a slightly smaller day pack with no frame. I'll use the framed daypack for our winter hikes (we don't camp in the winter). Thanks again.