Back to my last question, as for the best value for money, Dr. Martens definitely has it if it can bypass a few problems. First, I'm not sure about its grip. Secondly, do you guys think that hiking in rocky places (where there are some sharp rocks) could tear the leather?

In that case, I would definitely go with a hiking pair or the ATAC instead, because we have a lot of that terrain here.

As for my personal experience, I have used my Harley full grain leathers for over 5 years in-town and they have a lot of scratches, but have never gotten torn. However, I am not sure how sharp was the worst thing to scratch them in order to make the conclusion.

As for my water-crossing alternative, it'd be very kind of you guys if you could give me an estimate of the lifespan of your water-crossing trail-runners per density of use.