There's more to backpacking than pack weight! Like humility ! It's what makes some one a pleasure to hike with or an annoying I wish this guy would just take a hike kind of joker!

I carry anywhere between 20 -45lbs with beer food and wine ,board games,or guitars all depends on who I'm hiking with.

But in the event I truly need to move and cover miles I rely on conditioning, determination and experience.

Not pack weight.

Sometimes reading these forums I think we should evaluate ourselves our strengths our weaknesses , our passions and what drives us to be out there doing what we do. Before we trouble ourselves with packlists.

If you are passionate about it you'll know what to bring and you won't need a scale to persuade you!