Thanks for all the good advice guys I geuss it will just be a deal of depends on the trip on what I take to use because I still like the Alcohol Stove but was looking at getting away from the fuel. But its not that big of an issue since I already have it I might as well use it. As for wood fires I've been use twig fires for years doing historical reenacting camping and we have lots of wood here. And esbit tabs I don't have any right now but do have some of the military tabs left over from my Army days so will just use them for now and let it be at that. And yes I would like a canister stove for packing when I can get a good deal on one. Enjoy the woods this year guys and thanks for your help.