Thanks again for all the help. I went ahead and ordered the Passage 2 and the footprint for it as well. I like the idea of using the rainfly and footprint with the poles as an alternative to packing the entire tent during the summer and from what I have been reading, the Passage seems to be the higher regarded of tents I was looking at. It should be here Wednesday so'll I'll have a good look at it then. Thanks again everyone.