It repeats itself with varying results often in the hiking group.

For some reason, there have been very few women doing that - tho there is one who is a thorn in my side, who seems to be shopping activities. She has tried a number of the outdoor groups locally and always seems to have the same results.... She seems to have settled into a pattern of indicating she is coming and backing out at the last minute, tho. An indicator of learning from mistakes, I hope.