my Hennessy DIY clone finishes out to 10' x 52". The tarp, stakes, and all go in the attached sidebag. I can pretty much attach a strap (I don't use tree huggers) pull everything to the other strap, stake out my tarp and I am done. Been messing with hammocks for years now. I still like to tarp tent. For some hammocking seems to be a lifestyle choice, and I am on hammock forums on and off, but I want to take the shelter that I think will work where I am going, not force something to work where it shouldn't. once you add a top quilt and underquilt to carry, I don't see many advantages over a tarp tent. So I guess for me, after a fair amount of use, a hammock is another tool, not the only one.