For week+ long trips, I can't seem to get under 30 lbs. but then I carry two qts. of water also, with a 2 lb. bear canister. 5lbs. right there. All those other little things add up in a hurry. I think I need to leave the 4 oz. flashlight at home along with the 11 oz. camp shoes etc. I have not used my 20oz. Slinglight chair for a few years, so can't blame that.