I think that is a lot of my problem. I have buddies that hike, but you really could not say that they are hikiers. They go occassionally and have limited gear, therefore, I ususally end up either supplying some sort of gear or at least showing some body along for the ride how to use it. I think that has taken away from my enjoyment a little bit, but I do enjoy helping them. It makes them think that I am smarter than they are LOL.....