Jim, whatta I gotta do, invite myself? I'm to the point that I feel like I'm being put off, but you have been moving, so I've cut you some slack.:) New year, new allotment of vacation time, 160 hours earned or saved, plus 24 Float hours. Not even a Govment job. PM me, I'll see how the weather holds. I like to put in at least a few weeks ahead for vacation time. mtnsteve has Winterfest later this month close to Lassen Park, I don't do Facebook, so have very little info on his trip, that is late Jan I heard. At this point I'm not going there due to lack of communication to me.