I know - I still feel an emotional tug just thinking about my Salathe. I'd probably still be using that Salathe-and-Silshelter setup, which weighed just under 3 pounds, if MSR hadn't come up with the Hubba. For the same weight, it was just as versatile and a lot more comfortable. With my present Carbon Reflex, half a pound lighter, there's even less likelihood of going back.