Originally Posted By ChrisFol


If he really needs that 10 degree bag, then more insulation is needed than what a Z-lite provides and more clothing-- certainly something more substantial than thin socks, a fleece and long johns to get by at +10 and below. At that temp, I may also consider dropping the canister stove and go with my Whisperlite or Dragon Fly.


Unless it's compensation for inaccurately rated bags, which also happens. But it really is a heavy bag.

Not all of us can do the very expensive more accurately rated bags, but the Campmor 20F down bags seem to be a good compromise - I've heard they are good for 25F-30F, depending on the sleeper's comfort range. Personally tho I have found things like the Ray Way quilt kit (light but bulky) and other quilts are generally very good compromises, lighter but still warm enough.
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