Paul, Thanks for the insight. I had them done at an alpine shop. No one in LA sells tele gear. I'd have to drive to Mammoth or maybe San Diego to find a tele shop. The guy who fit them did use the toe cap like you're supposed to do.

I tried it myself after watching Mitch's video on TTips, but couldn't do it right on my own. I have plenty of room in the shell without the liner, maybe too much, I'm not sure. My feet measure 26.0 and 25.5 without a sock; the liners are 26. Maybe they are a half size too small. Any shorter and my toes would be jammed into the front of the boot. The shell is 25-26.5

Because no one in LA sells tele gear, everything I get is online and it's hit and miss on fit, not the ideal situation. I also tried a pair of T3's and Crispis. The Crispis were too big a boot for my skis and the T3's didn't fit right either.