Tom D
I've been up that tram - OMG - I was terrified lookin down AND I"M A CLIMBER!!!!! That mountain top is so big I'd carry a GPS fer sure. It seems so parklike and benign that its easy to get lost up there, heard a guy did get lost and die up there and some other lost people found his camp and water supply.

Rucksack
There's a big difference between Oregon's coast and the high desert here in Central Oregon. The coast is a rain forest, whereas where I live is in the second largest "rain shadow" in the world. There can be forty feet of snow fifteen miles west of me and we get maybe 12 inches of precip a year here, but I do live at 3,200 feet above sea level.
Jim


Edited by Jimshaw (01/19/10 11:47 PM)
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