Jim, Jim, Jim, you are so funny. grin All your map and compass challenges always start out with "you don't know where you are". Why do you get into those situations? Oh yeah, you don't have a map and compass. If you have a good map (I print mine off the internet for free) of your area, and you know where you start from, and then STOP every 5 minutes to see where you are, you ALWAYS know where you are. 90% of the time, a compass isn't necessary (well, in the mountains). I do this with my scouts all the time. We stop, I hand them a map and say "show me where we are". It takes them a bit, but they are learning. I have never not known where I was on a map when I do this. Especially in the mountains where it is really easy to match terrain features.

Jim, I think it is time for you to get a map and compass and stop getting lost. grin
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