finallyme

"Then you don't have to ditch it just to summit."
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Thats exactly what I'm talking about - no one has to ditch their pack to summit because of weight - only because of attitude or conditioning. Ditching your gear to summit IS A VERY BAD IDEA. VERY BAD - it kills people. Its this preoccupation with not carrying gear that has infiltrated the minds of modern camper campers. BE PREPARED has become, Carry a spot so you can be rescued if you leave your gear behind and get into trouble.

Climbers have a very different idea of carrying gear to summit. Real climbers are not the ones who are rescued, its backpackers who think summits are fun places to go with no gear OR EXPERIENCE, that die up there, or need rescue.
Jim