Jasonlivy; I've been watching you knock aluminum stay packs for quite awhile now. If what you say is true it would be different - but it's not true. At the same time that you exaggerate what your pack can do you have to tear down other packs. I'm tired of it. 50 lbs my foot! And, what I mean by 'your pack' is that I believe you rep them. You must be desperate to have to exxagerate so much.