I was on a overnight snowcamp trip over New Year's, one young man, Jason always has a much smaller pack then me and doesn't seem to have a shortage of necessary gear. Anyway, he had a pack around the same volume as the new Starlite I picked up, which I packed all my summer gear in to make sure it would work when I got it. His pack was loaded with winter gear and included a bear canister. Just amazed me how he does it. I didn't have any extra stuff or luxury items.