Well I finally made me some char cloth last night and it worked great too. Hell I won't be able to "not" start a fire if we keep this up. We'll have more fire starter than we have any thing else. I think that I have so many different ways to start a fire that I could start a fire in any condition or weather. That was a great tip on the char cloth and I had been hearing about it for so long that I finally saw a video of it being made and it was so simple that I just had to try it and it worked great. Thanks to every one for the ideas...sabre11004...

The first step that you take will be one of those that get you there !!!!!