Outspoken

You've gotten a lot of great advice. I just don't think the evening/day travel/stationary clothes thing has been stressed, or maybe most feel differently than I, but I find that with my winter activity - ski, then camp, I wear maybe just mid weight long underwear top and bottom, with a 200 fleece jacket with pit zips and high topped gaiters. I also have shells - top and bottom that can go over any of my clothes, so I can put them on skiing if need be and the pants are full zip so no need to remove boots to put them on. Convenience is definitely worth paying a weight penalty for. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Once camp is set up, I put on down bibs or down pants and my shell bottoms to protect them. I then have an ancient 25 oz hooded down jacket from the REI attic in Berkeley that I paid $60 for, which goes over the fleece jacket and can be covered up by a very large parka shell. I have found that the huge long bombproof parkas actually do keep you much warmer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I don't consider 57 oz for down coat and pants to be excessive, they would be pretty warm sitting around down to maybe 20 degrees.

Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />