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#202479 - 01/24/19 07:36 PM Do you carry knives in your kit
JohnyH Offline
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If so, do you have a separate kit for hiking a separate kit for camping. Which knives do you carry in either?

If you think that carrying knives in either is crazy please refrain from answering I do not want to go back and forth arguing with people

I am looking for people who actually carry knives in their kits

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#202482 - 01/24/19 09:17 PM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: JohnyH]
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I carry a Swiss Army Cadet knife. It rides in my pants pocket full time, whether I am backpacking, car camping, hiking, shopping for groceries, sitting in front of the computer... like I said: full time.

The Cadet model has: one large and one small blade, a can opener and a bottle opener (with large and small screwdriver blade tips), a toothpick, and tweezers. It weighs a bit more than 1.5 ounces (my cheap gram scale says 48 grams).

But knife preference varies widely and knife-using habits are equally individual, so what anyone else here uses will reflect their needs, habits and opinions, and may not fit your needs very well.

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#202484 - 01/24/19 10:13 PM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: aimless]
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Do you have any large knives, fixed blades 5 inch or bigger like esse junglas, do you carry large Chopper knives ever hiking or camping not in your backyard?

When going into the actual Woods

there's a thousand people on YouTube discussing what they pack in their gear and they always have Choppers and yet I have talked to over a hundred people on these Camping forums and every single one of them has told me they only carry small folder

I am beyond surprised

personally I always have at least one 6 in knife on me if I have a bag

I only carry you a folder as a Leatherman in my pocket as my EDC

for the woods I don't feel safe without at least one fixed blade

then again I think that hiking more than 15 miles is Ludicrous I would never even attempt to hike a hundred miles like some pwople do, nor is it fun for me

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#202486 - 01/24/19 10:27 PM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: JohnyH]
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I carry a tiny little folding blade to cut the salami and cheese we carry for lunch. It also comes in handy for any repairs--which are going to be more about sewing than anything else.

I don't carry anything with a screw or a nut, so tools like a Leatherman are just dead weight in my pack. And a big fixed blade knife? I can't think of any way I would use it.

Car camping is different, because my wife is a chef, so she likes a few cooking knives in the back of the van for her use.

You should try hiking 15 miles. You see things that you can't see any other way.


Edited by balzaccom (01/24/19 10:28 PM)
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#202488 - 01/24/19 10:49 PM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: JohnyH]
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I moved this thread to General Discussion, as a better fit than Make Your own Gear, since we aren't talking about making our own knives.

Where do you hike, JohnyH? A Michigander or Arkansan is going to look at gear differently than those of us who hike in the big mountains out west, especially out here in states where wildfires are an enormous problem.

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#202491 - 01/25/19 12:33 AM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: JohnyH]
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It's not surprising that most backpackers don't carry a fixed blade knife. There's really no need, and it's extra weight. I think those involved in "bushcraft" are more likely to carry a fixed blade, though. It sounds like that might be the perspective you're coming from.

Personally, I carry a Swiss Army Classic in my pocket all the time, so it goes along, and when hiking I also take a small folder, like a Gerber LST.

I like knives, and have a couple of fixed blades, but wouldn't be likely to take them backpacking.
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#202493 - 01/25/19 01:27 AM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: Bill Kennedy]
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I understand that people like to go lightweight especially when backpacking a long distance.

I still cant believe that a lot of you hike well over Twenty Miles at a time. I don't think I've heard of too many people hiking anything close to 50 much less 400 miles.

Anything over 15 would be crazy

The longest trail I have hiked so far was 5 miles (not flat tough) although I have done it on well over 20 times, but each time was less than 5 miles

I can understand if you're really into hiking well over 50 Mi why you would not want your pack to be heavy tough

As far as what type of gear I have in my pack yes I'm definitely coming from the Bushcraft side

I too, even with my relatively non extensive experience have shed weight in my pack but in the beginning, I, had axes in my pack I still have care have a large blade but it seems to me people who like the backpack light may have started with a just a 5 inch fixed blade and downgraded to a Swiss army knife

That's that's kind of funny to me but I can still understand it

Personally I like to have a large blade for batoning wood for making a fire I haven't really talked about other additional issues like sleep systems and such if it's really cold outside I don't like to sleep without a fire that's why I need a big knife or an axe

Im in Louisiana

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#202495 - 01/25/19 03:27 AM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: JohnyH]
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Most backpackers don't do 20-mile days. I think those that do are mostly through-hikers hiking the long trails like the PCT or Appalachian Trail, where they need to maximize their daily mileage in order to complete the trail in one season. And they don't start off doing 20-mile days, but build up to it. There are exceptions, of course. Some very fit hikers may go that far daily on an "ordinary" trip, but they're a small minority.

For perspective, I would imagine most people go 5-12 miles in a day on a typical trip. At least, that's true for me. A lot depends on the amount of elevation gain, and of course, pack weight.

I've never done a through-hike, but it seems that most of the people who do are able to build up to 20-mile days, occasionally 30, and very occasionally 40 miles. With very light loads.

In any case, it's not a contest or a race. Whatever pleases you is the right way.
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#202501 - 01/25/19 11:51 AM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: JohnyH]
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Loc: Torrance, CA
You should pack the equipment you need for your intended purposes (within the rules). People who feel they need a large fixed blade knife often talk about batoning wood. How often do you actually baton wood? When I hike in areas that allow camp fires I usually have one. I can usually find plenty of dead 1" diameter and smaller branches that can easily be broken up with my feet. I've never felt the need to baton wood. It seems like a lot of work for vacation. I'd rather spend that effort getting farther down the trail to see more of nature.

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#202502 - 01/25/19 11:52 AM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: Bill Kennedy]
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One more note: most of where I backpack is in areas of limited campfires, either because of the dry fire season, or because I am above timberline. I have never used a fire for heat at night, and I couldn't do that where I backpack.

Thus no need for the larger knife.
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#202533 - 01/29/19 12:20 PM Re: Do you carry knives in your kit [Re: JohnyH]
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Bushcraft and survivalism are very different from backpacking, but they all get conflated with each other. My EDC tool is a Leatherman Wave (the old version), but that's too heavy for hiking. When I'm hiking, I carry a Leatherman Style PS (because I like having pliers) and a tiny fixed blade knife (2.5 inch blade). The most demanding task I've ever used it for while camping was cutting cheese and sausage. Truthfully, even the small fixed blade is probably overkill, but I suppose it gives me some sense of (false?) security.

EDIT: I meant to say, I almost never have a fire, unless my fire bug of a teenager is with me.


Edited by 4evrplan (01/29/19 12:22 PM)
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