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#118729 - 07/25/09 03:37 PM Help with son's new gear
Kerflop Offline

Registered: 07/21/09
Posts: 2
Loc: Kansas City
This is my first post after a few weeks of lurking... A quick bit about us, my son and I. I have been camping since a kid, but really only car camping. My son, who just turned nine, and I want to venture out deeper on the trail. We just started looking into equipment and man am I confused about all the stuff out there. I am reluctant to pay premium prices for equipment that he will out grow in the next year or so. Today we went to Dick's to look at bags and packs where we found the following.

1. Bag - MT20 Jr. $34.99 Size- 68 x 25 x 18. Now, we wont be doing any winter camping and Missouri doesn't get all that cold in the other three season for us to warrent a warmer bag. So a 20 degree bag should be just fine...

2. Pack - Marmot Aspen 35 #9368. It is 2200 Cubic " and 3.1 LBS. $79.99

I do not know much about either of these but they are well below the price of most of the other equipment we have seen. I can't seem to find anything on the net that talks about them so I am hoping someone here has some experience or alternate suggestions..

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#118755 - 07/26/09 02:42 PM Re: Help with son's new gear [Re: Kerflop]
OregonMouse Offline

Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6562
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
I am not familiar with the items you mention and could find out nothing online. That 20 degree sleeping bag is probably more like a 30-35* bag--except for the really expensive brands, the ratings of most sleeping bags are at least 10 degrees off. How much does it weigh? You don't want to put more than about 10-12 lbs. on a 9-year-old kid; maybe less for his first trip. If it's a mummy bag and weighs less than 3 lbs., it's probably OK. It may last until your boy is 5'5", which is probably 5 years or so down the road. (Cheap sleeping bags tend to lose their loft faster.) It might be too big for him now, though, which means he'll have a lot of dead air space to warm with his body heat and therefore won't be as warm.

Does the pack really fit your boy? It's most important that a pack fit well and comfortably support 8-10 lbs inside. Be sure to get a pack with load lifters which will keep the straps from cutting into his shoulders (I found this out the hard way), and that will transfer nearly all the weight from the shoulder straps to the hip belt. I wouldn't try to put a small size adult pack on a child (I recently tried with disastrous results). A search of the Marmot website did not come up with this pack, so I couldn't find out anything about it. You might want to consider the REI Comet or Deuter Fox.

There are some things you don't want to buy too big and wait for the child to grow into them. Footwear is one of these things and a backpack is another.
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view--E. Abbey

#118827 - 07/28/09 12:54 PM Re: Help with son's new gear [Re: Kerflop]
OregonMouse Offline

Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6562
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
Kerflop (I like that username!), there are a number of fairly recent threads in this section that discuss various aspects of gear for kids. I hope you've read them!
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view--E. Abbey

#118831 - 07/28/09 02:07 PM Re: Help with son's new gear [Re: Kerflop]
Trailrunner Offline

Registered: 01/05/02
Posts: 1835
Loc: Los Angeles
A new Dick's just opened in my neck of the woods. From what I observed in the camping section, I would say it's not the best place to look for backpacking gear. Especially for a youngster.

Look at online stores such as Not necessarily even to buy but just to see what's out there.

If you only travel on sunny days you will never reach your destination.*

* May not apply at certain latitudes in Canada and elsewhere.

#118855 - 07/28/09 09:25 PM Re: Help with son's new gear [Re: Trailrunner]
Tango61 Offline

Registered: 12/27/05
Posts: 931
Loc: East Texas Piney Woods
Campmor is a good on-line store that offers inexpensive gear.

If you think you can, you can. If you think you can't, you can't. Either way, you're right.

#139591 - 09/30/10 09:59 AM Re: Help with son's new gear [Re: Kerflop]
sbonder Offline

Registered: 05/25/10
Posts: 13
buy lightest possible stuff. i bought a kid's sleeping bag at rei and it is heavier than mine. if you want your son to carry stuff, make it as light as you can afford.


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