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#104105 - 12/10/08 07:01 AM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: packlite]
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Congrats on reaching the big 62!

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#108272 - 12/24/08 04:20 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: chaz]
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Congrats on reaching the big 62!
Thanks, I'm getting all my docs together to go apply for social security. Can't believe it. Feel like 30, look like 25, and I'm putting in for social security. crazy

I've got a ways to go to match that lady pictured on the forum index who's lighting her cig off her 100th birthday cake candles. lol
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#108290 - 12/25/08 10:38 AM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: chaz]
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Originally Posted By chaz
You say that now while you have your faculties. I saw an old man yesterday in a power chair using oxygen and had parkensens. He was trying to reach for something on a shelf and couldn't retreive it. He was over the hill.


Over the hill?! You seem to overlook the fact that he was still TRYING, despite his handicaps. When you stop trying, then you are either over the hill, or dead.

On a lighter note, Paul McCartney got a clue to being "over the hill" when his daughter asked him "what a Beatle was"? eek

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#108436 - 12/29/08 08:37 AM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: packlite]
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Packlite, You can also look at all the benefits of being a senior citizen. Cheap coffee at Mcdonalds, AARP discounts and many that I'm not aware of yet.
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#108616 - 01/01/09 08:26 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: chaz]
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I turn 50 in one week. I just got my "AARP" card along with an invitation to join their club in the mail. They even knew my full name! That could be considered a valid definition frown

I don't go to doctors (Prescribers?) much. Don't take any prescriptions and rarely even take an aspirin.

I still smoke and I drink good beer everyday, only eat two meals a day, and seldom eat sugary stuff at all.

I make it a point to hike to the bottom of the holler behind my house every few days and spend some time wondering around in there, mostly because I can.

This ain't much different than when I was 30. Before that I didn't drink beer at all and I worked a lot harder, but I don't really feel much different. Not enough to complain about it, that's for sure.

I still get out and work hard too. But not like you, chaz. I have a neighbor, Randy, about my age and he works like a mule too. So does his dad, Verlon, who's a neighbor also. Verlon's 76. We all built trails in the forest between our places a couple years ago. Verlon set a tough pace and after a week he had wore me out good. I didn't say anything until Randy whined a little but that was all it took and we both got to commiserating good.

But I guess we should take advantage of any privileges our age might gain for us. I mean, shoot, according to the AARP now I can get deals on hotels and car rentals and insurance and more !! smile smile

Bill
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#108637 - 01/02/09 12:26 AM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: billstephenson]
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Originally Posted By billstephenson


But I guess we should take advantage of any privileges our age might gain for us. I mean, shoot, according to the AARP now I can get deals on hotels and car rentals and insurance and more !! smile smile

Bill


Check out the AARP auto insurance program. It saved me about 50%.
Age does have some advantages...but then the rest of it sucks.

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#108646 - 01/02/09 09:11 AM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: Eric]
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If you think you are over the hill, then you are. It doesn't have that much to do with age.

Oregon Mouse of this forum is in her 70's and still going strong; I'm in my 70's and still going; I think OM passed me on the trail once. I met two 70-somethings and one 80-year-old on the JMT this past summer.

If you don't have any major health limitations, then being "over the hill" is a choice, not a condition.
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#108683 - 01/02/09 09:40 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: Pika]
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I would agree with you Pika. I've been reading Nimblewill Nomad's journals and that guy is a hiking machine! He's been hiking long trails since 1998 and I think he is in his upper 70's.
That gives me hope. To be debt free and able to hike long trails is my long term goal. One step at a time for each.

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#108708 - 01/03/09 01:06 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: Pika]
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Originally Posted By Pika
If you think you are over the hill, then you are. It doesn't have that much to do with age.

Oregon Mouse of this forum is in her 70's and still going strong; I'm in my 70's and still going; I think OM passed me on the trail once. I met two 70-somethings and one 80-year-old on the JMT this past summer.

If you don't have any major health limitations, then being "over the hill" is a choice, not a condition.



Thank you....

That's a very inspiring and comforting message. I'm sure that whenever I'm trudging along and begin to consider feeling sorry for myself because I'm getting older I'll be stopped by the vision of you and Oregon Mouse zooming by me (she'll be in front wink

That's just what I need too smile

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#108719 - 01/03/09 05:24 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: chaz]
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Originally Posted By chaz
...I saw an old man yesterday in a power chair using oxygen and had parkensens. He was trying to reach for something on a shelf and couldn't retreive it...


I ask the Lord to take me home before I ever get like that.

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#108727 - 01/03/09 07:50 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: coyotemaster]
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Originally Posted By coyotemaster
Originally Posted By chaz
...I saw an old man yesterday in a power chair using oxygen and had parkensens. He was trying to reach for something on a shelf and couldn't retreive it...


I ask the Lord to take me home before I ever get like that.


Life is precious. I recall someone saying once that the only person who could possibly want to be a blind, deaf, failing, incontinent, pain-ridden, 88-year-old is a blind, deaf, failing, incontinent, pain-ridden, 87-year-old. You should probably wait until you are there before you decide that you want to be taken.


Edited by Pika (01/03/09 07:52 PM)
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#108730 - 01/03/09 08:48 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: atraildreamer]
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Yeah, he was trying but definatly over the hill. Or let's say has crested the hill and is on his way down fast. Life is fragil anyway and when your to that point any little thing can finish you. Live all you can while you can...
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#108731 - 01/03/09 08:59 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: billstephenson]
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Well! for a while I thought I was over the hill. Now after reading all the replies, I feel young again. LOL I'm ready for some bpacking. Even though I'm inspired by the will to live,(and I do have sympthy for those that have lost function). We shouldn't beat this dead horse anymore. Time to plan the next adventure. LOL LOL LOL
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#108734 - 01/03/09 10:03 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: billstephenson]
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The only hiker I've been able to pass the last 5 years is this one:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/2717580992_5d64372531.jpg?v=0

Sorry, can't get the image to post or even a link to work!

EDIT: at least I got the link to work on the third try!


Edited by OregonMouse (01/03/09 10:08 PM)
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#108861 - 01/06/09 05:38 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: OregonMouse]
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Originally Posted By OregonMouse
The only hiker I've been able to pass the last 5 years is this one:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/2717580992_5d64372531.jpg?v=0

Sorry, can't get the image to post or even a link to work!

EDIT: at least I got the link to work on the third try!
OM, first of all, as one who grew up in Oregon and have lived in the PNW for over 60 years, your photo is "right on" - the should-be-official mascot of the PNW.

Secondly, the problem you are having with your image is that the url ends with several unusual characters after the .jpg so I just removed those characters and it works fine.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/2717580992_5d64372531.jpg?v=0 (remove the ?v=0) and you get "banana slug"






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#112261 - 03/04/09 07:00 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: chaz]
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I really feel you're only as old as you feel. I'm 63 and still feel 40, well almost anyway. I hiked the Grand Canyon rim to rim 3 years ago and climbed tow 14,000 foot peaks last summer. I'm planning some backpacks in Utah canyon country in the next few weeks and another trip into the Grand Canyon in 2010.

I know some folks aren't as fortunate with their health as I am at my age so I am grateful for all the time I can get and hope to keep going for years to come.

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#112989 - 03/18/09 11:07 AM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: chaz]
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I don't think I've got this concept straight in my head because I can't imagine what it would be like to not want to do things and not be able, but I remember reading someone else's comments years ago about what it's like to be old, where you're sitting on a park bench in the sun and you're dreaming of doing great things and climbing mountains and when you open your eyes you have trouble just getting up off the bench.

Maybe you're over the hill when you start getting hurt all the time doing the things you like. That happened to my father very suddenly one summer. He liked cutting firewood and had done it for forever, all of a sudden he was making foolish mistakes. Cut a limb he should have known not to stand in front of, it whipped back and nearly took his eye out, knocked him flat. Got his truck stuck in the woods where he shouldn't even have had a problem and I had to chop it out with an ax. Wouldn't fix the handle on his sledgehammer and the head came off it when he swung it at a splitting wedge, went straight up about ten feet and nearly smashed in the back of his skull, hit him squarely.

So I guess you're over the hill when you make stupid mistakes and can't stop any more.

Jimmy

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#134390 - 05/28/10 05:52 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: leadfoot]
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I just passed 10 teenagers in the last 4 miles! sheeeit!

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#134416 - 05/29/10 02:23 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: JimmyTH]
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I'm "only" 52 (almost 53) and I'm doing things now I didn't do in my 20's. I've had injuries and my recovery time isn't what it used to be. I have to work harder to stay fit. But the years have given me mental toughness I didn't have when I was young and that makes up for much of what I've lost physically. I'm still outracing guys who could be my son.

I'd sooner mow the hill down than go over it!!!!

IMO it's all in your state of mind.
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#134420 - 05/29/10 03:24 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: chaz]
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AFAICS, "over the hill" will come when my body no longer can deliver what my mind wholly desires it to do, despite whatever efforts I make to coax it, strengthen it, heal it, or rest it into the proper shape.

Therefore, a pro athlete may be over the hill at 35, because he (or she) expects nothing less than exceptionally superior performance every time. Conversely, if I keep my expectations somewhat in line with my physical capabilities, I may never be over the hill.

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#134550 - 06/02/10 01:36 AM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: aimless]
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My definition of "over the hill" is when I can no longer go up and down said hill. In other words, when I'm no longer able to put one foot in front of the other, or I can't see well enough to drive to the trailhead....

On the other hand, I'll no doubt find something else to do then, until my time comes!
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#134594 - 06/02/10 07:37 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: JimmyTH]
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Jimmy, many of us here can identify with your dad. But my theory is that as you get a little older, you work smarter. You prepare for the worst, carry good gear that has worked in the past and double prepare for trips.

As for passing teenagers, I roll past 5 young road bikers a week on my road bike coming into work. However, the keen racing guy and a few of the hard-ass women blow by me pretty easily. Out in the woods, I start early and stay late and keep a steady pace. Usually get to my campsite between 1 and 3 p.m. on a regular backpacking trip and put in extra time on the thru hike until I do my quota.

Still, I'm 57 and knee issues, the occasional ligament tear and other minor complaints do take longer to heal. I'm still feeling the overextension of my right leg on a trip to the river with my neice last summer. Stupid little things hang around longer.

As others commented, my mental strenth is much improved over my 20s as I have much greater self-discipline which means I can endure tougher days. Equipment may not be new, but it was good quality stuff and still can be rehabilitated.


Edited by wildthing (06/02/10 07:37 PM)
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#134778 - 06/06/10 08:36 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: wildthing]
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AS Long as We Are looking Down At The Grass and Not Up at The Roots, We Are over the hill of sorts.This is better than under the hill! Perhaps? Hmmm Food for thought? Happy trails, be thankfull for the day. Dont waste time pondering aches and pains if you are capable of getting out and hiking!

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#134788 - 06/06/10 11:58 PM Re: Define what over the hill means to you. [Re: Kent W]
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