So, as a preface, I know nothing about fishing, or fishing gear. But I thought, for someone like me who doesn't know, it would be good to hear what gear is good for fishing if you are hiking. My own personal preference would be as lightweight as possible.
So, bring it on... what do people use, or want to use, for hiking-fishing?
The lightest gear you could use would be a hand line with minimal tackel. If I'm going to an area that I know holds fish then I use a fly rod with the least amount of gear I think I will acctually use. then If I don't catch fish well at least I had fun.
Use whatever works for what's where you are going, and how you like fishing.
If I take stuff (and I more than often don't) it's a small fly rod with a small thing of flies. If I were actually meat fishing instead of just torturing fish it would be a small spinning rod with an adjust-a-bubble and similar flies. But then again most places I go it's small trout, grayling and whitefish, and that's what works. I might take different stuff if I were doing lots of canoeing in fencepost size pike lakes. (and if I were meat fishing for same it would be my platypus bladders, 4 feet of line and a big hook with a baitfish on the end. My brother and I used to nab pike like mad in a canoe by throwing out coke bottles with a foot of line and a baitfish on the end. when the bottle started moving you chased it in the canoe - great fun - although I believe not strictly legal now.. )
Ender Since you are not a fisherman, go simple and cheap. Get something easy to cast. I would suggest that you do not take up flyfishing. Spining gear, especially with a closed face real is pretty fool proof. Lots of people make multipiece rods. Be aware that you are probably not gonna catch a lot without some skill and the right bait as well, regardless of what gear you take. Jim P.S. carry a jar of salmon eggs.
These are my own opinions based on wisdom earned through many wrong decisions. Your mileage may vary.
Just to agree with Jim here, if you're not already a fisherman don't take a fly rod. I do because I already flyfish, and I have more fun with it, but it's somewhat difficult to master. It is much easier to start with a spinning rig - and you can cast it further, hence my comment about "if I was meat fishing".
If you are ending up in trout country in lakes, with a spinning rod, unless you have a canoe to fish from, I mentioned the adjust-a-bubble. I highly reccomend you take a couple of these with you:
How you use 'em is you put your line through the rubber tube in the middle, and then twist the tube around so it holds on the line, leaving about 5 or 6 feet of line at the far end of it. You tie yourself a nice little fly or nymph on the end of your line (up here a nice little montana, damselfly, or scud nymph), then you can open the end of the bubble and fill it with water to the point that it barely floats. now it has enough weight so you can cast it a looooong way. so you can heave it a ways into a lake, then retrieve very very slowly, so the float barely makes a ripple in the water. makes it easy to fish from shore effectively.
Loc: Meadow Valley, CA
I use a spinning reel and telescoping rod, both I have had for quite some time now. Like phat, I use the bubble he shows. One thing I just learned a couple years ago, is when casting with the bubble and fly set up, just before the bubble hits the water, stop the line with a finger, so the bubble will stop and the fly will continue so it doesn't get tangled so often. Lots of fun. For me, when the fish are biting good, I can knock them dead. A couple years ago on one of my Sierra trips, the fish were biting so well with the fly I was using at Rae Lakes, I had to quit to go back to camp to eat lunch. I was working my way back to camp, but had to quit, or I never would have got there. One of those rare trips.
We call that jug fishing around here. My dad used to meat fish with much success. He would put out a john boat full of 2 liter coke bottles rigged with a treble hook and live bait. He would place them from one end of the lake to the other. When we reached the end we would backtrack and start pulling in fish. He used to set YoYo's on branches. You had to put your name on them and your DL#. I just like to fish for fun and if I catch a couple for dinner, great..
I keep completely separate fishing gear for when I backpack and when I'm just plain fishing. Most places you hike to will have much smaller fish. Therefore you don't need so much tackle or equipment.
Here is what I recommend for packing:
Telescoping Rod These rods collapse very small and don't take up too much space. A conventional two or three piece rod sticks way out of your pack and tends to get caught up in things while you hike.
Small spinning reel All you need is a small reel with a low-strength line. 6 lbs test line is more than enough for the cutthroat and brook trout you may run in to at mountain lakes.
3-4 lures I keep my lures in a small tin. I only take a couple with me. A couple small spoons, and a couple small Mepp's style lures seem to do the trick for me. The tin is important because it is much smaller than a tackle box, and protects your gear from the hooks.
That is about all you really need to fish a mountain lake. It can be way more complex if you want to get in to flyfishing or anything like that. Always start simple. If you like it then you can start getting more advanced from there. Sometimes on one night trips you may want to consider bringing a can of worms and some bait hooks, but they will only last about a day when it's warm.
Loc: southern california
Let me say first, I am by no stretch of the imagination a fisherman. I zip-tie my cheese-ball wal-mart fishing pole to my pack and take 5 or 6 lures. I can yank fish out all day of back country lakes with this setup.
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
Thanks to an article just out on BackpackingLight, I've become really interested in Tenkara fishing, a traditional Japanese method of fly-fishing. It appears to be a far more sophisticated version of what I used to do as a kid with my line tied to the end of a willow pole. It's really light and no reel is required.
The video in the article is worth watching, if nothing else for the wonderful song in it!
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view--E. Abbey
My usual fly-fishing gear is dramatically cut down when I go backpacking. Gone are the bulky chest-highs, the heavy vest, the cumbersome net and the half-dozen fly boxes. My fishing equipment for backpacking is as follows:
- Orvis Clearwater II 9"5wt 4-piece rod (3 1/4oz) - Rod/reel protection tube (1/2oz) - Reel w/ fly-line (1.3 lbs) - Lanyard w/ floatant, dry-shake, foreceps, multi-tool & three spools of tippet of various sizes (1.5 lbs) - A cheap folding net - One small or medium Orvis floating fly-box with the necessary flies.
Depending on where I am going and who I am going with I may also bring my Orvis Silver Label Hippers (these pack quite small)and my Simms Rivershead wading boot (can also double as a hiking boot).
The final item is an 8inch fry-pan if we are going somewhere that does not permit an open fire or where we know a pre-made fire pit/rock circle does not exist, since 99.9% of the time we choose to leave our designated camping place better than what we found it and thus do not mind the added weight for the cause of preserving our beautiful back-country.
If you are fishing small mountain lake and streams your not going to catch big fish so you can use a really small pole. One could try out a kid pole with or without the reel. When I dont know there is fish in the area I dont bring fishing gear, but now i think ill have to try line fishing. I highly recommend TFO fly poles. They are cheap, its not to big of a deal if you scratch or break them. As far as the reel goes..thats optional.
I use to catch carp and cat fish with a willow pole or reel-less fishing pole. Lots of fun, caught trout like that before but when I was way younger. From now on if there is any body of water where i am hiking ill be sure to bring line.
Oh yes bait, well you cant go wrong with caddies in the sierras.
I won't backpack into an area that doesn't have good fishing.......so you can say I'm fairly serious about backcountry fly fishing (for trout). A lot of people take alot of fishing gear into the backcountry but I disagree. Leave the fishing vests and waders at home.
What I take is my 4 piece 6 weight fly fishing rod carried in a lightweight sock (as opposed to an aluminum or plastic tube). Two reels (one with a sinking line, one with the floating line). Instead of taking 4-6 different fly boxes with hordes of different flies, I take one or two big boxes with the flies I'll know I'll need for that particular trip. Instead of waders I fish in my Teva sandals, and if it's too cold for that, my hiking boots and casting from shore has to do. Instead of a fishing vest, I wear a simple lanyard and hang the basic necessity tools (clippers, hemostat, floatant, etc) off of it. All of the other little items (extra reel, extra tippet and leaders, etc) go in my pants/shirt pockets. And sometimes I take an old camera case with strap that I can stuff everything into.
And keep the frying pan at home, it's just adds more weight and space in you pack. The best way to prepare trout in the backcountry is baking them in HD foil. The foil only weighs grams and there's no cleanup to worry about. After you're done baking and eating off the foil, just throw it back in the fire to burn off all odors, wad it in a small ball and pack it out. And I use various sauce packets from fast food joints to glaze the trout while baking. It's amazing what various BBQ, mustards, relishes, spices, lemon/lime juice, etc packets can do to make a baked trout delicious!!!
And keep the frying pan at home, it's just adds more weight and space in you pack. The best way to prepare trout in the backcountry is baking them in HD foil.
Baking or smoking trout is great-- but only if fires are permitted. Many places in the back country they are not, and too be honest, even if they were I wouldn't want to ruin the environment just for the sake of a 9oz pan-- which weighs less than a spare reel and fly-line.
I consider myself a hardcore backcountry fisherman. I only travel and hike to remote and usually offtrail lakes that I feel have a better than average chance of holding good to excellent fishing. But I'm also a very practical guy. I don't own a 400$ Orvis anything. My setup is based on lightweight and adaptability. I usually fly fish, but I also love to use an ultra light spin setup. My fly fishing set up is a Crystal River backpacking rod, 7pcs, 8 1/2' with a Cabelas graphite reel. Whole set up is under 120$ I use an Eagle Claw ultralight 2pc 5' rod, with sliding rings and a cheap ultra light reel. Whole setup under 50$. On long trips, over 3 days, I bring both setups. On 2-3 day trips I usually only bring the fly rod, but I bring the spinning reel, and use bubbles and or spinners with the fly rod if conditions are impossible to cast etc. I have a small case filled with flies, another with lures, bubbles, and swivels. For a full on week or longer trip, my full fishing gear weighs a bit under 2 lbs. Last year on an 8 day Sawtooth trip we fished 18 lakes, and caught fish to 20" every day. We broke one reel, and had enough "extra" gear that it didn't slow us down. I love great gear, but I also know that I don't have to spend a fortune to fish the backcountry. Craigslist, garage sales, and the big stores all have really moderatley priced gear that is perfect for the backcountry. It has to be able to take the beating! Good Luck!
Description: Sawtooth Trout
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Phat, you mention these bubbles elsewhere and others seem to say they're great. I'm looking to buy a first backpacking rod, and have been looking at telescoping rods (my experience has all been with simple bamboo stuff as a kid).
Price is a major factor, so I am looking for a very cheap setup. The pen one only says it's good for 4+lb fish, so I would worry that an a-just-a-bubble would decrease that.
Thanks, and sorry if I'm off base on the question, but anything more complex than handlines or bamboo with line attached is new to me. I'm used to catching small karp and catfish, but will be looking to get graylings or trout, so I'm not sure what strength pole I will need.
I personally just use 'em with a very cheap telescopic spinning rod from crappy tire with a reel loaded with 4lb test line. I have a couple decent small shimano spinnig reels I put on them, but a cheap spinning reel would work fine too.
A spinning reel loaded with 4 lb. test line and an 1/8 oz. rooster tail is probably my first choice right now for trout. The same rig with 8 lb. line has caught a lot of bass. A few spare lures won't take up much room.
Pinch down the barbs for trout if you want to throw them back. Makes unhooking much easier on the fish. Barbed hooks, you just about kill the fish unhooking them with treble hooks. For bass you will need barbs.
Be familiar with the regulations in the area, as there are some fly fishing only trout streams, also watch minimum length of the kept fish, also subject to regulations. And there are a few spots where it is illegal to fish. If you get caught, you will be fined, so keep up with the regulations.
I am currently using some spinning rods and reels that I got for less than $20 on sale at target. Work great! Get something that looks well made. The biggest thing is a good drag. You will have a hard time judging this right now. The drag gives line to the fish when he pulls hard. I have caught fish with 4 lb. line that were 10-15 lbs. If your drag is set right, and doesnt stick , the fish can't break your line. Of course, if there is a snag nearby, the fish can go in to that, so you may need heavier line when fishing a place with snags.
Many reels have a number such as 20, 2000, 30, 3000. I'd recommend one that starts with a 2 or 3. I prefer the 3 for trout.These are slightly larger for a faster retrieve. A fast retrieve makes it easier to land fish. They will probably be able to hold 200 yds. of 8 lb. test or so. This is the size I prefer. My 3 is old, though, so I may take a 2 this time.
Don't fill it completely with 4 lb. test, fill it with 8 than add 50 yds. or so of 4 lb. Otherwisise you'll use a lot of 4 lb. line. The lighter line wont' take up as much room on the spool, so you can almost fill it normally with 8 lb and still be ok.
Other lures that I've had good luck with for trout are small spoons less than 2 in. long, #0 -#1 Mepps spinners, a big nightcrawler with no weight or maybe some split shot , small rapala type lure.
You may want to go for 6 or 8 lb. test line if you are just starting, as it can be tricky landing a largish trout on 4 lb.
Needle nose pliers are good for unhooking fish that have swallowed the bait. I consider tham a ncecssity.
Hi Ender, If you like to fish while you're backpacking, you might want to check out my site Backpack Flyfsihing. There's lots of good information there from people who have been doing it a long time and some links to good resources.
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I've found that the fisherperson's skill and the willingness of fish to be caught (generally inversely proportional to the distance from the trailhead) are more important than gear!
^I couldn't have sed it better myself^ you never know when youll see a good olboy a days hike in. with a stringer full of fish throwing line off a svea123r cup. << my preferd real for a hand line in the backcountry
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Keep it simple. If you know people who have packed into the area you plan to go ask alot of questions about what the suggest. Seems like 90% of the time I pack in there was a couple of things I should not of brought. As long as you have the proper first aid supplies and survival equipment the other stuff seems pretty minimal.
Depending on the time of year and where I'm hiking, I might carry a modified ice fishing rod it was a dead stick rod that is 4'6". I had a rod builder buddy make it into a 2 piece for me, it makes a nice small stream rod for casting bubbles and flies, small spinners, jigs or fly spoons. It casts really accurately and I can slingshot under overhangs it. If I have some larger open water to fish I'll carry a small 4 weight 3 piece fly rod that roll casts like a dream. I do chase spring steelies in back country areas of northern Wisconsin and Michigan. I carry a fairly heavy 7 weight which is 3 piece rod when I'm chasing them. I'll normally carry a small fly wallet, or a small hand sized tackle box and a combo forcepts and scissors. When I do the backcountry trips with the sole purpose to fish I'll carry waders or hipboots if they are needed. Along with a larger fly selection and a few weighted streamers if we are close to the river mouth.
Hi everyone, first post for me. I have been reading this forum for a few months, and thought I would start off in the fishing section.
I am an avid fisherman in the summer and winter, and usually prefer to troll around prairie lakes, but I am planning my first ever back country fly fishing trip this summer. I have managed to put together a fairly lightweight setup, and will probably pack in both fly and spin casting gear. I have a 4 piece, 9' fly rod with a small reel, but also found a telescoping rod at the local dollarama for $2 that I put an ice fishing spinning reel on. I built a rod holder out of a fluorescent light cover, a great tip I found on this forum. Also managed to find a tiny aluminum fly box that holds all my tackle, the whole works weighs less than a pound and a half, with 2 rods, 2 reels and all tackle I should need for a week.
I think the Bass Pro Shops combos (Hobbs Creek?) are pretty good. That said, I think I'm going to try a cheap tenkara rod (google "tenkara" for a variety around $60). It may not be as adaptable as a spin or regular fly rod, but geez ... a 12" ul rod at 1.4 oz?
If I don't catch fish with it, at least I haven't carried much.
I checked their website, and I didnt see any four piece rods that were cheap enough for me. I guess I'll stick with the three piece I've been looking at and just strap it outside my pack. Its exacly the same length as my pack, so it wont stick out above or below it to snag anything. It should work out just fine, I just thought a four piece would be a little easier to pack up.
I have been a backcountry fisherman for a long time and I have a really light set up. I'm an old fashion bobber, sinker, hook, and worm guy.(I know that sounds bad.) Never got into fly fishing much, so I don't have a backcountry set up for it. I mostly fish, golden, browns, rainbows, and cuttrought. I do mostly shore and creek fishing.
Here is my gear list: Pen fishing rod 2oz MX 15 rear drag graphite spinner reel with 6lb line 5oz Tackle box with 9 small bobbers, 12 hooks, and 20 sinkers 4oz Nylon fish stringer 1oz Very small thin plastic bait tupperware for worms 4oz
Just one pound. This works great for me. A few key points with my set up. With the pen rod you have to know how to use drag and have to use a net or shore your fish to prevent breaking the rod. This takes a bit of practice but not hard to do. As for bait I try to use natural bait like stonefly larva found under rocks in the water in early summer, late spring, grasshoppers, or larva from old wet rotten logs. But that's my region of the world and may not work for everyone. As for worms I have a very small tupperware with a three holes poked in the top. I shred non chemically treated paper and mix it with a bit of mud. As to make sure they live the heat of my pack I put a small ice cube on one side of the tupperware. This helps keep them cool for the trip in. Oh and if my rod or reel fail, I just use a stick and tie a line to it for an even more old fashioned method.
As for cooking them tasty fishies. I use two methods depending if I can have a fire or not. If a fire is permitted I use a modified fish friing grill with the handle cut off. I got it cheap at a sportmens store and it weights only 3.5oz modified.(8.5x8.5 inches) If I can't have a fire I use an alcohol stove and a bakepacker. I always bring an alcohol stove and bakepacker so I won't include this weight.
Sorry for the long post but I have been working on my backcountry fishing system for years. Just remember, do what works for you and this is what works for me.
Thanks for the great post! I've been thinking about live bait lately... probably because I'm lazy. It'd be pretty nice to just throw in a line with a worm on it and let it sit there for a while instead of constantly casting with spinners or flys. Do night crawlers work well at elevation or do the locally found live bait work better?
BZH, Natural local bait has always been better in my experience. I believe the fish recognize it as their natural food source and don't hesitate to eat it. But don't get me wrong sometimes you can't find live local bait, thus why I bring some worms. I just get whatever I find in the garden. Worms for me have always worked pretty well. Better then corn, salmon eggs, tiny marshmallows, or fake bait.
As for cooking the fish. I bring a very tiny shaker of lemon pepper and garlic powder to flavor my fish. Gut and clean the fish and sprinkle lemon pepper and/or garlic powder inside the fish then cook it. This is my backcountry cooking method. At home I like butter, fresh lemon with sage, and a a touch of fresh ground pepper. But I'm not going to bring that in the backcountry as I try to keep it light as I'm sure most do here.
OregonMouse, I always follow all rules and regulations and encourage others to do the same. I pick up a copy of my state's regulations every year as I also like to hunt.(I hunt for meat, I am not a trophy hunter.) But I'm not going to preach if anyone breaks a minor rule like pulling a fish out of the water without a licence to eat it.(Nor would I enable anyone that's breaking the rules by giving or lending them equipment, no matter how minor.)But they better not complain when the ranger writes up that ticket. I will report people if they are hurting animals for no reason.
A friend of mine just got a fishing with out a license ticket here in Tennessee. Its 195 bucks or so. When the license is only around 20 bucks, not worth the risk in my book. I think they also have the right to take all your gear away if they decide to (I know they can do that for poaching, not sure if its that way fishing or not).
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
I'm not accusing anyone of doing wrong here! It's just that each year the fishing regs get more and more complex and detailed, down to the individual region and even to the individual stream or lake (certainly true here in Oregon!). Those of us who want to fish unfortunately have to check out the regs for where we are going as part of trip planning. There are game wardens who do get into the back country--I've met some!
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view--E. Abbey
I am solely replying to you as I dont have time to read all the replies, which iam sure contain good info. I have had one of the cheapo shakespeare telescopic rods (the little 4'6" ones)for 12+ years? now and have pulled in everything from cutthroat in Yellowstone to largemouth in wisconsing, to big pike in the boundary waters. I swear i though the thing was gunna snap so many times when in to a big one but it would bend in half unlike any pole (I am an avid angler) I have ever had and keep on going. Also my friend bought his the same time as me and still has his as well and uses it regularly. For the price (like 15 bucks on Amazon) I would have to recommend it and I tend to shy away from recommending products.
As for line/tackle/bate/ well that is so situational I would not know where to start except that no matter what, I always keep a few "inline spinners" with me. these are akin to Mepps or Panther Martins and tend to be an all around good spinning reel lure for all types of fish from trout to musky. NOTE: I do not often fly fish unless going with people who solely do, and really know how to as it is an entirely different art form within itself
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I am solely replying to you as I dont have time to read all the replies, which iam sure contain good info. I have had one of the cheapo shakespeare telescopic rods (the little 4'6" ones)for 12+ years? now and have pulled in everything from cutthroat in Yellowstone to largemouth in wisconsing, to big pike in the boundary waters. I swear i though the thing was gunna snap so many times when in to a big one but it would bend in half unlike any pole I have ever had and keep on going.
got into a small muskie at Craig Lake State Park in the U.P. recently and the tip of my pole bent past my reel, finally breaking my line; I think there was a bit of sand in the real as the drag would not let line out =/ but the pole held up lol
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I guess I'm the weirdo here because I like to bring along a Medium-Light action Berkely Lightning, 2-piece 6'6" spinning rod, with a 2000 size reel (I have a couple to choose from) with 8lb line since I am mainly fishing for LM bass. I use the Berkely because it is pretty light and sensitive, but it's also cheap enough that if it got lost or broken I wouldn't cry about it.
And on a separate note, Samuel Cook appears to be a spammer...
My personal opinion from my experiences is that a closed face reel and telescopic rod is better for backpacking than an exposed bailed reel and segmented rod. I also carry in my emergency gear: 20# braided line, some hooks (barbed and unbarbed), couple leaders, 4 steel nuts (for weights).
My fishing kit consist of a ice fishing rod and small ultra lite reel.For tackle I carry an assortment of soft plastic lures like grubs with swim tails and lead headed jigs. Plastic worms rigged Texas style.For some flash i use spinner baits, not in line spinners they hang up way to easy. Plus I hate treble hooks they kill way to many fish.I also carry poppers and ice jigs and a few floats. Some plain hooks and split shot for live bait.I love using top water lures like buzz baits and soft plastic frogs so I carry a few.I carry all this in a strap on tackle box.One more thing the floats i carry are weighted for easy casting of ice jigs....a must have.
I have a cheap telescopic rod from Cabela's that I've been using for about 3 years now. It's really light, and although cheap, it's held up fairly well. I also bring a small "tin" with 3 lucky lures and a couple extra swivels, weights, and hooks. I haven't really figured out the best reel yet. I've broken one already. I think something small, light, and closed face would be best. As far as cooking the fish, I keep it super simple. Instead of packing in a pan, I just use tin foil. I'll cook it with salt, pepper, and butter... The benefits of using tin foil is that the clean-up is very minimal. For the butter I'll just go to McDonalds for breakfast and jack a handful of butters. Anyway, I just recently posted a blog with some cool backcountry fishing photos, if anyone wants to check it out.
I backpack to fly fish, mostly in the Golden Trout Wilderness. I try to carry the minimum of gear so as not to weigh down my old body. My fishing gear currently weighs in at 16 oz and consists of
1) One small foam fly box and Trico fishing pack to hold it and some nippers, hemastats, floatant and tippet spool
2) fly rod in protective plastic tube (light weight fluorescent light tube) and fly reel (Lamson Lightspeed) loaded with line to match the rod (Winston BIIt 8ft 3wt). The rod and case are tucked away securely inside my pack while hiking to help protect it.
So far my system is working well for me.
Edited by Richard Cullip (11/16/1201:20 PM) Edit Reason: for spelling
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