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#178587 - 07/22/13 01:22 PM Weather question
malkasgambit Offline
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Considering going to Mammoth Lakes Friday night - Monday night, would you guys still go considering the weather forecast? I'm taking 2 friends that have never been backpacking before.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php...22#.Ue1qLEG85Nt

http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.ph...nt#.Ue1qKkG85Nt

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#178589 - 07/22/13 02:00 PM Re: Weather question [Re: malkasgambit]
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This would depend on your own experience in dealing with Sierra thunderstorms. The chance of being struck by lightning are fairly low, but the chances increase substantially if you do the wrong things in the wrong places at the wrong times.

If you feel confident of your ability to take necessary precautions during Sierra storms, then you can shepard your buddies through whatever weather arises. If you really don't feel confident of your own ability to recognize and react to a coming storm, I'd cancel and do it another time.

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#178592 - 07/22/13 03:12 PM Re: Weather question [Re: aimless]
malkasgambit Offline
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I have not dealt with Sierra thunderstorms before, only rain and mild snow. It says 20% chance so I presume fairly unlikely - are there any documents you recommend reading that can provide some general safety tips if one does come? Honestly if we see a thunderstorm coming we will probably just head back to the car, which will be 6-7 hours away.

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#178593 - 07/22/13 03:20 PM Re: Weather question [Re: malkasgambit]
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If you sit and wait it out, it'll only take a couple hours... if you see any rain at all.

Unless it's a real gully washer I frequently don't stop hiking and don't stop to bother putting on rain gear - you're dry in an hour and it's rarely going to involve lightning. Unless you are above 10000 feet, in which case you'll want to be heading for lower ground and paying close attention, and know "the lightning position" - there is a NOLS article over here on lightning:

https://rendezvous.nols.edu/content/view/1718/734/

The general rule is to cross high passes as early in the morning as you can to avoid the afternoon thunderbumpers and rain showers.
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#178595 - 07/22/13 03:52 PM Re: Weather question [Re: malkasgambit]
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Grossly oversimplifying, there are basically two ways to get rain in the summer Sierra: the rare Pacific low-pressure system from the west and the more common monsoonal storm from the east (coming in backdoor from the desert Southwest).

The latter is what we have right now. I'd think by the weekend this pattern should be cleared out, so at worst you're looking at the chance of afternoon showers, not all-day rain they're probably getting now. I wouldn't cancel but I would keep an eye on the forecast as you get closer and have a west-side alternative if you don't want your newbies to have a soggy trip.

Last August we had to take an unplanned layover day while it stormed, because I didn't want to do our XC alpine pass in a thunderstorm. It happens. Have also met a party coming out of the John Muir Wilderness on the east side who had endured rain every day of a weeklong trip, while we never saw a drop during our week. Just last June we were chased out of the Tahoe area a day early when a cold storm hit with horizontal rain and temps in the 40s. Yuck.

Originally Posted By malkasgambit
I have not dealt with Sierra thunderstorms before, only rain and mild snow. It says 20% chance so I presume fairly unlikely - are there any documents you recommend reading that can provide some general safety tips if one does come? Honestly if we see a thunderstorm coming we will probably just head back to the car, which will be 6-7 hours away.
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#178603 - 07/23/13 04:44 AM Re: Weather question [Re: Rick_D]
malkasgambit Offline
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Ok thanks.

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#178639 - 07/24/13 08:52 PM Re: Weather question [Re: malkasgambit]
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#178640 - 07/24/13 11:31 PM Re: Weather question [Re: malkasgambit]
rockchucker22 Offline
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Originally Posted By malkasgambit
heck yea just be ready!
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#178644 - 07/25/13 01:16 AM Re: Weather question [Re: rockchucker22]
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Agreed, it's trending the way you want with a diminishing percentage chance. Headed for the Tahoe region and the forecast is similar, just means a few clothing changes and rethinking the shelter.

Keeps the trail dust down, which is nice.

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