Backcountry Forum
Backpacking & Hiking Gear

Backcountry Forum
Our long-time Sponsor - the leading source for ultralite/lightweight outdoor gear
 
 
 

Amazon.com
Backpacking Forums
---- Our Gear Store ----
The Lightweight Gear Store
 
 WINTER CAMPING 

Shelters
Bivy Bags
Sleeping Bags
Sleeping Pads
Snow Sports
Winter Kitchen

 SNOWSPORTS 

Snowshoes
Avalanche Gear
Skins
Hats, Gloves, & Gaiters
Accessories

 ULTRA-LIGHT 

Ultralight Backpacks
Ultralight Bivy Sacks
Ultralight Shelters
Ultralight Tarps
Ultralight Tents
Ultralight Raingear
Ultralight Stoves & Cookware
Ultralight Down Sleeping Bags
Ultralight Synthetic Sleep Bags
Ultralight Apparel


the Titanium Page
WM Extremelite Sleeping Bags

 CAMPING & HIKING 

Backpacks
Tents
Sleeping Bags
Hydration
Kitchen
Accessories

 CLIMBING 

Ropes & Cordage
Protection & Hardware
Carabiners & Quickdraws
Climbing Packs & Bags
Big Wall
Rescue & Industrial

 MEN'S APPAREL 

Jackets
Shirts
Baselayer
Headwear
Gloves
Accessories

 WOMEN'S APPAREL 

Jackets
Shirts
Baselayer
Headwear
Gloves
Accessories

 FOOTWEAR 

Men's Footwear
Women's Footwear

 CLEARANCE 

Backpacks
Mens Apparel
Womens Apparel
Climbing
Footwear
Accessories

 BRANDS 

Black Diamond
Granite Gear
La Sportiva
Osprey
Smartwool

 WAYS TO SHOP 

Sale
Clearance
Top Brands
All Brands

 Backpacking Equipment 

Shelters
BackPacks
Sleeping Bags
Water Treatment
Kitchen
Hydration
Climbing


 Backcountry Gear Clearance

Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#115873 - 05/12/09 09:17 AM Lightest Water System?
chris Offline
member

Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 26
Loc: kentucky
I've been trimming weight and one thing on my list to trim is my water system. What is the best and lightest system?

So far I'm using a Camelbak and one small Gatorade bottle. I like being able to drink out of a tube while hiking to free up my hands. It also makes filling easier if I go to a gravity system. The Gatorade bottle is great for around camp to drink out of and to make tea. I guess I could drink out of my pot though because I FBC. I'll have to debate that 1.5 oz. savings.

I'm looking for the lightest 3L bladder and tubing. So far I've found the Platypus to be the lightest. Any recommendations?

Top
#115875 - 05/12/09 10:13 AM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: chris]
BarryP Offline
member

Registered: 03/04/04
Posts: 1574
Loc: Eastern Idaho
A 3L Platypus is pretty light (1.5oz).
Me--- I would be wary of just taking that. I use one 2L platy and two 1L platy’s. Most of the time the 2L is empty. I use it at camp though. If one bottle leaks, no problem; I still have a fall back. This principal came in handy during Easter vacation as I backpacked Wisconsin’s Kettle Moraine South Forest. One of my platys leaked all over inside my backpack. At least I still had 2 more containers to carry water.

In another situation, my hiking partner had his 3L bladder filled. Unbeknownst to him, the drinking tube came unscrewed at the platy. He thought he was just sweating on the back. No, he was leaking his whole water supply! That hurt. Us other two shared water with him and we didn’t make it to a stream that day. So we were all a little dehydrated. Miraculously it rained during the night of which we collected rain off our tents.

I may be overdoing it, but my mind is at ease with at least 3 water bottles.

-Barry

Top
#115878 - 05/12/09 11:38 AM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: BarryP]
BrianLe Offline
member

Registered: 02/26/07
Posts: 1149
Loc: Washington State, King County
Very much along the line of Barry's approach, I typically carry four water vessels. Two platypus's, perhaps one two-liter, one one-liter, because I use Aqua Mira and it's nice to have some water left in one when I fill and treat the other, plus extra capacity for those longer waterless stretches. A 20 oz gatorade plastic bottle for flavored liquids and general use. And a 16 oz or 20 oz plastic soda bottle, partly sometimes to help fill a platypus depending on water source, partly as something to keep with me to drink from at night. I could get by without this one, but at about half an ounce it's not a major hit.

_________________________
Brian Lewis
http://postholer.com/brianle

Top
#115889 - 05/12/09 03:56 PM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: BrianLe]
OregonMouse Offline
member

Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6800
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
Same here--I prefer several smaller Platys to one large bladder. If you want a hydration system for drinking as you go instead of at rest stops (I prefer the latter--gives me an excuse for regular rest stops!), you can use the Platy hydration tube/mouthpiece with a 1 L or 2.5 L Platy bottle.

For me it's a case of not wanting all my eggs in one basket, or rather not all my water in one container!


_________________________
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view--E. Abbey

Top
#115905 - 05/12/09 09:03 PM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: chris]
aimless Online   content
Moderator

Registered: 02/05/03
Posts: 3293
Loc: Portland, OR
Like many others here I carry several platypus containers, generally two of the 2L and one of the 1L, along with the drinking tube and bite valve.

It isn't just a matter of whether one water container springs a leak -- although I did have one platypus develop a pinhole-sized leak, once. There are other things that can happen.

Like being fumble fingered and dropping a cap into a river, or even a whole water bottle. Or stepping on the cap where you set it down for "just a second" on some river rocks. Or leaning your pack against a tree and accidentally squashing the bite valve open, out of sight, so half your water siphons off as you sit and take in the scenery.

Having 5L of capacity also gives me more flexibility in making a dry camp.

But this is just my way of doing it. You don't have to do it the same as me. grin

Top
#115906 - 05/12/09 09:12 PM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: aimless]
Howie Offline
member

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 481
Loc: Canora, SK, Canada
aimless said "Like being fumble fingered and dropping a cap into a river, or even a whole water bottle. Or stepping on the cap where you set it down for "just a second" on some river rocks."

That is why I carry an extra cap for my platypus. Actually it is a cap from a pop bottle or such but it fits just fine. It doesn't take up much room in my kit either.

Howie

Top
#115948 - 05/13/09 12:12 PM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: chris]
chris Offline
member

Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 26
Loc: kentucky
Thanks for all of the advice. I hadn't really thought too much about having some backup. I will now.

KY Chris

Top
#116104 - 05/15/09 05:11 PM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: aimless]
Folkalist Offline
member

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 374
Loc: Fredericksburg, VA
Aimless, boy do you have a vivid imagination when it comes water carrying failures. Those things couldn't have possibly all happened to you! grin
_________________________
Why am I online instead of hiking?

Top
#116123 - 05/15/09 11:29 PM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: Folkalist]
phat Offline
Moderator

Registered: 06/24/07
Posts: 4107
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Originally Posted By Folkalist
Aimless, boy do you have a vivid imagination when it comes water carrying failures. Those things couldn't have possibly all happened to you! grin


Well maybe not him.. but:

Quote:

Like being fumble fingered and dropping a cap into a river, or even a whole water bottle.


Done it. Myself. The water bag. Had to go wading for it.

Quote:

Or stepping on the cap where you set it down for "just a second" on some river rocks.


Done it. Actually not the cap, but the mouth of bottle that I set down..

Quote:

Or leaning your pack against a tree and accidentally squashing the bite valve open, out of sight, so half your water siphons off as you sit and take in the scenery.


I have done this - *repeatedly* - I am now very careful about where the bite valve ends up smile


None of that will make me carry 5 litres of water (unless I'm
going to be a day without water sources) but I usually carry two platties - a 2 and a 3, alternatively a (tough) 4l MSR bag. I hardly ever fill 'em full except in camp. I usually carry a litre or so while hiking as long as I can expect to find more.



_________________________
Any fool can be uncomfortable...
My 3 season gear list
Winter list.
Browse my pictures


Top
#116141 - 05/16/09 02:13 PM Re: Lightest Water System? [Re: phat]
aimless Online   content
Moderator

Registered: 02/05/03
Posts: 3293
Loc: Portland, OR
Just to be a bit clearer, I carry most of that 5L capacity empty more than 95% of the time, but I am willing to carry the extra two ounces or so of empty containers, just so I can load up on water when making a dry camp makes more sense than plopping down next to the water source.

As for the "backup insurance" aspect of having three containers, I am probably way more paranoid about water than I need to be.

Then again, Oregon's mountains are (rather surprisingly) much drier than you would think from our reputation. We have volcanic mountains, mostly, and their slopes are often very porous. Snowmelt oftentimes goes straight into the soil instead of running off as surface water.

Top

Shout Box

Highest Quality Lightweight Down Sleeping Bags
 
Western Mountaineering Sleeping Bags
 
Lite Gear Talk - Featured Topics
Backcountry Discussion - Featured Topics
Yosemite Winter Rangers
by balzaccom
12/21/23 09:35 AM
Make Your Own Gear - Featured Topics
Featured Photos
Spiderco Chaparral Pocketknife
David & Goliath
Also Testing
Trip Report with Photos
Seven Devils, Idaho
Oat Hill Mine Trail 2012
Dark Canyon - Utah
Who's Online
0 registered (), 323 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
StarryOwl, Noodles, McCrary, DanyBacky, Rashy Willia
13241 Registered Users
Forum Links
Disclaimer
Policies
Site Links
Backpacking.net
Lightweight Gear Store
Backpacking Book Store
Lightweight Zone
Hiking Essentials

Our long-time Sponsor, BackcountryGear.com - The leading source for ultralite/lightweight outdoor gear:

Backcountry Forum
 

Affiliate Disclaimer: This forum is an affiliate of BackcountryGear.com, Amazon.com, R.E.I. and others. The product links herein are linked to their sites. If you follow these links to make a purchase, we may get a small commission. This is our only source of support for these forums. Thanks.!
 
 

Since 1996 - the Original Backcountry Forum
Copyright © The Lightweight Backpacker & BackcountryForum