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Well, probably the other reason for that is I depend on clothing...toque to extend the range of my exped wallcreeper down into sub-freezing.


Very good point. With this clothing kit, I as well wear it in conjunction to when it gets below freezing inside my bag. But I must also make the point of this whole kit is for the 3 season use. When it is early spring and winter a lot changes in the clothing department, and a lot more goes in. MEC -3 C (27 F) Merlin bag (in place of the WM), down pants and booties, winter gloves, MB Down Parka, gaiters, and away goes the tarp and out comes the tent etc etc, but still I keep my weight down the best I can. Also switching from fleece to down will really lighten up your loads.

****Also note that this works for me, and I am not trying to "convert" anybody to try it. Like I always tell everyone. You can have all the light weight gear in the world and still die, because you don't know how to use it. I hope however that it can be a reference point for some to go off of and experiment around with.****

****Also I would suggest trying things via a car camping trip first, or in the back yard. Take along that extra gear you like so well. In other words go car camping with your bp gear, that way if things head south then you have a refuge back up. But by all means play around and experiment. The point is get out there whether it is with 5 or 50 lbs just do it*****
Which I am sure I am preaching to the choir on with that one, other wise we would not be having this discussion <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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I miss my 4.8lb base weight as a ground dweller. But I sure don't miss the ground.