Rob
I don't think you will like the white cloud, <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> so I'll be sending you my money order for $20... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> just PM me for my address... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Actually I have had 2 and I have a cloud 6500. They are awesome, but don't strip it please. Do no cutting on it. Anyway what happens is the waterproofing used then "and maybe now" cannot really adhere too well to spectra and it comes off in dandruff sized bits all over your gear, you breath it etc.

I sent my registered original back and they gave me the cloud 6500 as a replacement. I bought number 2 second hand and sold it to my friend who says it too is too damaged from shedding waterproofing and I've offered him $20 bucks for his. I would invert it and remove the offending material as completely as possible, and maybe recoat, but most likely not - a large garbage bag works well as a waterproof liner and its a lot cheaper than a new spectra pack.

The number one thing is size. As I recall the White cloud was around 5,000 to 5,500 inches. Its the only pack that large and that light - 51 ounces if it has the titanium stay - that you will ever own. You can always replace any other pack but the white cloud. Its an ideal Winter pack and climbers pack. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />