“So I hustle in to swap it for two Ridgerests, one regular and one deluxe. They did well together until I rolled onto my side and the hips got cold.”

I like sleeping all over, but in the winter I force myself to sleep on my back. Then my GG 1/8” ThinLight with my NightLight ¾ and WM Antelope and long johns, keeps me warm and comfy. I can’t use those mats (only) in the summer though because my back gets sore.


“I've been on snow at those temps with one Ridgrest (standard) and a Prolite3 (short) and done well.”

That’s my favorite combo if I’m not going to backpack far or if I’m not a Sherpa for my family. As winmag pointed out, “Never had a cold night with that combo.”


“I'd prefer to stay with closed cell pads since I don't like inflators. What's my solution to get below 0dF with closed cells and warm hips.”

Would you mind an open cell pad? Billk made his own. Sometimes I use my NightLight with bumps down, with an open cell egg crate mat (1.5”x30”x15” 5.5oz) bumps up on top. Note that this is a small open cell mat, but I put it where it counts <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />. I have found this to be more comfy than 2 closed cell pads.

Good luck in your experimenting. May everyone find their sleeping zen.
-Barry