If there are no roads, or people, or sounds of roads and people, I am good. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

That is what separates car camping from backpacking. With car camping, there are lots of other people, trying to show off how much stuff they can bring and turn their little spot into a house without walls. Then they have their stupid music blaring all night. I go to the woods for solitude and quiet. I don't want to hear music in the woods, I want to hear the woods. I want to see animals that aren't drunk and making fools of themselves. But, that is just me... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />