The first pack that I owned was also a military ruck sack. I use that from around 1970 until about 1986. I then went to the external frame Kelty. ( I can't remember the model name but it is green with no padding on the waist belt and just about all sleeping gear had to go on the outside of the bag). It was heavy and kind of a drag.(I do still have it though) Then later on I went, of course, I went to the internal. Now I have a High Peak and I don't remember the model name on it either...(I am getting old) Any way, in my opinion, the internals are the way to go now-a-days. I wouldn't take any thing for my pack because it is so durable and believe me I have put it through the paces too! It has never torn, ripped or even held a stain for very long. It's about ten years old a just about looks new. I clean it regularly, and I empty it every time I get home. It hangs in the closet with the rest of my gear so that it is ready to go if something comes up and it always does huh??????...sabre11004....


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