Barry, you said "good" so this probably won't work for you, but most digital cameras take okay quality video and audio. My first digicam could take 15 seconds of video, and the digicam I got a few years ago can record indefinitely I believe, and has much higher quality video than the first. By now I'm willing to bet they are probably half the quality of normal camcorders. Do you have any interest in a camera that can just take decent video? Might be smaller and lighter.

From what I understand there's a bit of a war going on in storage formats for digital camcorders, might complicate comparisons in a search for a true digital camcorder.