I took a friend of mine on a 80 mile loop in southern utah last may. She had done plenty of car camping so I figured it wouldnt be an issue bringing her along. Boy was I wrong. She was absolutely miserable and through all the whining and complaining I became miserable.

Like most of us on this site I a couple full sets of extra gear. I take friends on one or two night trips but unless that they a backpacker who has invested in their own gear I wont take anyone on long trips again. I tell people before I take them out now that they have to be able to go multiple days with out a shower, be able to take a dump outdoors, be ok hiking in bear country, no smokers ( the last thing i want to smell is cigarette smoke when i am in nature) and no whiners